Neil Young News: "Living with War" Cover Art

Thursday, April 20, 2006

"Living with War" Cover Art

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At 4/20/2006 10:38:00 AM, A Soldier said...: Some of the best things in life come in a brown paper wrapper....
At 4/20/2006 10:41:00 AM, red state jim said...: NY doesn't speak for me. He's not even from this country. Just because you're in the public eye, that doesn't make your opinion any greater than the common person. Clinton could have dealt with these problems but was to busy taking care of his personal agenda. Bush is the unlucky one that has had to clean up his mess...we're lucky GW has the balls to put his neck out there.
jim in a very red state
At 4/20/2006 10:58:00 AM, A Vet said...: Thank you neil. I'm with you and your message.

A wounded but proud Vet
At 4/20/2006 11:33:00 AM, King Harvest said...: This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
At 4/20/2006 11:35:00 AM, King Harvest said...: Great interview. Maybe it's my imagination, but Neil really seemed to turn the reporters around. At first they seemed kind of critical and apprehensive, but by the end they had a bit of a different tone to their words. I really liked what the guy said at the end: "Anyone who think's he's doing this for publicity -- THAT'S(!) ridiculous!"

Great interview. And like Neil said (Jim), the great thing about America is that you can differ opinions with your friend, and still sit down at the same table and beak bread with them. You're slamming Neil for speaking his mind, but he's just standing up for what he believes in, like you are. And you both have a right to do that. The difference is that you're following the lemming off the cliff. He's trying to point you in the right direction.

And I like the album cover too. Simple and effective.
At 4/20/2006 11:50:00 AM, Alf said...: The US are the most powerful state in the world, the last "super power" as some people say, maybe. The president of the US could be called the most powerful person in the world. ok?!
What the US-president is doing (or not) has at least some impact to anyone on this planet.
So everyone on this planet, may it be an US-citizen in the US, or a canadian in the US or a german, like me, living and working for 25 years in the Netherlands, can have and should have an opinion about what the US(-president) is doing or not.
If you, the US-citizen, think that this is not alright: please call your troops back to home, close your borders and live your own life and don't bother the rest of the world.......
I hope you will not do that as what you have to offer the world, in the past, now and for sure in the future was, is and will be great.
At 4/20/2006 11:58:00 AM, Danish NY Fan said...: I don't think that Neil Young whants to speak for everybody, only the ones whos voices are not over-represented in the media and elsewere. He speaks what he thinks is right and does not try to tell you what to think og how to think like the media or the politicians does. I think it is about time we get some critical political music like the music that Bob Dylan did in the 1960'. Way to go Neil.
Roll another number for the road!!
At 4/20/2006 12:50:00 PM, Anonymous said...: I agree with my danish brother
At 4/20/2006 01:40:00 PM, Anonymous said...: As Neil knows well, and many of us assume to be the case, fame and wealth--be it as an multi-national industralist, corporate CEO, or entertainer, allows access to the 'bully pulpit'.

Fortunately, Neil is using his access for those of us without the ability to capture an audience--short of the proverbial 'letter to the editor'.

Rock on Neil and thanks for using you talent and fame for the good of all.

-chicago
At 4/20/2006 01:50:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Neil Young, can't sing and can only get attention by being a total idiot. We are in a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great military conflicts of the last century-a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by "tolerance" and "accomodation" but is actually spurred on by such gestures, which have proven to be, and will always be taken by the Islamists for signs of weakness. Only two recent American Presidents: Regan and Bush
Neil Young....Love it or get the hell out
Southern Man
At 4/20/2006 01:54:00 PM, Anonymous said...: I dont Know If you Postd this on Purpose but the date is 4-20 and the time is 11-11 humm Spiritual and Stoned ? only in Neil Young Land

Helpless
At 4/20/2006 02:33:00 PM, Anonymous said...: That a boy, Neil! Isn't it refreshing to hear someone talk about their views in such an articulate and open manner? No mention of "evil doers".
At 4/20/2006 03:05:00 PM, Tim M. said...: If some of you are so offended by Neil's actions, why don't you just ignore them? It's not like Neil's going to pull his album because some hillbilly said to.

Let Neil do what he wants. It's not anyone's right to interfere with his artistic vision, but his own.

Go listen to Toby Keith, you morons.
At 4/20/2006 03:05:00 PM, Anonymous said...: It's really frustrating to me to hear and read all this stuff about Neil being pro-Bush before. He has never been pro-Bush and he has made his feelings on the President very well known through comments on Greendale as well as taking part in the vote for change tour. The only basis for this "pro-Bush" stuff is apparently his early support for the Patrit Act, which he quickly changed his mind on.
At 4/20/2006 03:09:00 PM, manhattan said...: War is indecent even if justified, and this war has, now even according to Bush had ZERO to do with 9/11 or WMDs. Being reasonable and speaking one's opinion is patriotic.
Stop the War! Speak out against 'The Ministry of War'
-Orwell.
At 4/20/2006 03:17:00 PM, Rock_the_Free_World said...: Way to go revisionist-redstatejim! You should apply for the White House press secretary job. Five short years after there were 4 dead in Ohio, AQ Khan stole the recipe for uranium enrichment from Urenco. When Reagan was Prez, Iran bought the recipe from Khan and began the centrifuge process. So redstatejim, are you suggesting that Clinton should have gone after the Axis of Evil while you were claiming he was wagging the dog for going after bin Laden?
At 4/20/2006 03:33:00 PM, Rock_the_Free_World said...: Revisionist-red-state-jim: Did I mention that Khan was arrested by the Danes in 1975, but was pressured to release him by the CIA in 1976 "to see where he went"? CIA decision was made by by some guy, I forget his name, but he was the immediate past Chairman of the RNC and he was from Texas.
At 4/20/2006 03:33:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Remember the good ole' days when rock n' roll songs were just about drinking beer and girls.... ?
At 4/20/2006 04:14:00 PM, horsewifnoname said...: I loved this interview. I really can't wait to hear this album... If it's as good as I hope it is, gonna buy copies for my friends and family as well..King Harvest, Alf, Danish dude.... like your posts! And wounded but proud vet, Thank You for your service and sacrifice.
At 4/20/2006 04:19:00 PM, Rock_the_Free_World said...: Now to the point, revisionist red state jim: Can you name the time in history when you could have joined the US military for 4 years and NOT had the opportunity to earn a combat medal? That is, when in our history have we not been "Living with War"?
At 4/20/2006 04:43:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Over at the Unofficial Martin Guitar site the threads on Neil's album have been closed. Seems it is not okay over there for Martin guitar users to have political views or to discuss a new
Neil Young album if it is at all controversial. I guess discussion of Bob Dylan, Phil Ochs, Joan Baez, Pete Seeger et. al. should be banned too. Just because their protests songs we recorded in the 60's it is okay to talk about them. But don't dare criticize King George the almighty who is unanswerable to no one it seems.
At 4/20/2006 04:43:00 PM, King Harvest said...: I'm starting to doubt the legitimacy of this cover art. How do we know it's real??
At 4/20/2006 04:55:00 PM, Linda said...: At 4/20/2006 04:33:25 PM, Anonymous said...

"Remember the good ole' days when rock n' roll songs were just about drinking beer and girls.... ?"

How boring. I like lyrics that are thought provoking and clever. I like to think.
At 4/20/2006 05:27:00 PM, t.ogle said...: Great interview. Neil,you are right to say that everyone is intitled to their opinion. However, now that you have looked back on your life through Prairie Wind, are we to assume that you are retreating back to the days of CSNY and "Ohio"? Wasn't it you who said; No one has the answer but one thing is true you got to turn on evil when its comin after you, You got to face it down and when it tries to hide you got to go in after it and never be denied? That's what this is about. I wonder what you would have written about 9/11 had Al Gore been president? Mr. Bush is doing the only thing he can do and that is to be proactive. History will prove that he is and always was right. My opinion Neil. I respect your's, please respect mine. That said, I'll still by the record, simply because no-one in the history of rock-n-roll has been a greater force than you. Thanks for all the great music.
At 4/20/2006 06:07:00 PM, Anonymous said...: NEIL YOUNG FOR PRESIDENT
At 4/20/2006 06:13:00 PM, Lazerlou said...: T.ogle,

You seem to be confusing the Saudi born terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 with the country of Iraq. "This" is about the invasion of Iraq based on a steady stream of lies proffered by the Bush administration.

Everyone is for getting the terrorists. The issue is, what the hell are we doing spending hundreds of billions of dollars invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, and getting thousands of innocent Americans killed and tens of thousands innocent Iraqis killed, and maiming tens of thousand more Americans?

What Neil and the rest of us resent is that the Bush administration lied to the public on many occasions to justify invading Iraq by suggesting that Iraq was cooperating with Al Qaeda and that Iraq had WMDs they were going to share with Al Qaeda. We now know it wasn't just incompetence that led to the "failure in inteeligence", it was purposeful misinformation that was dissemenated to the public while the Bush administration had knowledge to the contrary.

More innocent Amercian lives have been lost and changed forever due to this war than were lost in 9/11 already.

And if you did care about protecting the US, look what Bush's bogus war has done to our international credibility. Now that Iran has become an obvious treat to the West, we are SOL in terms of siging on allies to deal with Iran with any force. Bush has squandered our standing in the international community. Now nobody will sign on to deal with real threats, after Bush was revealed to be a liar.

That being said, Neil is the man, isn't he? We can agree on that! Thank goodness this world has him. Love ya Neil!
At 4/20/2006 09:00:00 PM, Powderkeg Finger said...: Neil, Neil, Neil

How the hell are we going to keep the oil companies & the corporate America that we all love happy; if "W" doesn't keep making idiotic decisions --at least if that Vincenti Foxx kiss ass would close the borders with Mexico I could begin to think about supporting him again in some capacity - I am a pot smoking conservative -who loves Neil and recently has begun to hate President Bush --how did I vote for this guy twice!!! He
(George Bush Jr.) is a total loser as viewed from the left and from the far right and an embarrasment to our nation --"Fool me nce ...we don't get fooled again!"
George "Pete Townshend" Bush
At 4/20/2006 09:37:00 PM, t.ogle said...: Lazerlou, Do yourself a favor and stop watching CNN and reading all those liberal newspapers. I'm not confusing anyone here. Everyone knows that Saddam had WMD'S. He used them on his own people. He was funneling money to Al Qaeda and parts of Iraq were used as bases for terrorists. These are known facts. Next your going to tell us that Michael Moore's movie is true. My friend, I love Neil as much as you do, but I feel he's wrong on this one. I care deeply about our country, and the last thing either one of us wants is our people being blown up on the streets or the malls as they are in Israel. If it not for Bush and his proactive approach, trust me my friend, it would already be happening. I just don't agree this time. As for credibility, are you losing sleep because the French hate us. Remember, we've baled their asses out twice the last 75 years, but they seem to have forgotten about that. Like I said earlier, Neil is the greatest and always will be. No-one has had a greater influence on me that he has. I just think he's picked the wrong battle this time. Lazerlou, I'd go to a Neil concert with you anytime!
At 4/20/2006 09:39:00 PM, Mark Johnson said...: Haven't seen the track list posted here yet, so...

#1 After The Garden
#2 Living With War
#3 The Restless Consumer
#4 Shock and Awe
#5 Families
#6 Flags of Freedom
#7 Let's Impeach The President
#8 Lookin' For A Leader
#9 Roger and Out
#10 America The Beautiful

more here
At 4/21/2006 03:17:00 AM, King Harvest said...: The only track I'm not really looking forward to is the last one, but I guess it rounds out the whole concept...

Doesn't help that I'm a Canadian, I suppose.
At 4/21/2006 06:38:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: HEY RED STATE JIM!
Nice to see somebody with some sense on these boards.

My Name, my Full name is: Cold Bowl of CHili. I've been fightin' with these flaming libs for days on these boards, man it's worse than I thoguht!

There is a long way to go to edjumacate these "know it alls". FIRST, they need to come to the conclusion that Michael Moor is full of shit-

They think his movies are like historical doculmentary or something. I can see all the stupid points they try to make, right out of that fat ass's movie!

You'd be amazed how stupid these hippies are!

Chili
At 4/21/2006 06:49:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WMD'S AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? Right!!!

If BUSH LIED, these DEMOCRATS LIED RIGHT? or are you libs in denial?
At 4/21/2006 06:51:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: hey King Harvest-
If Canada was worth having, we would have taken it a long time ago!

NICE of you to take shots at Amercia! Are you LIBS gonna take that crap? He's talking about your country! Let me here a LIB defend it? WOn't happen, your just like them!
At 4/21/2006 06:57:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: HEY LAZER GOO!
get your facts straight! The 9/11 terrorists were from several ARAB nations, including UAE (united arab emirates) and Egypt. Besides, it doesn't matter-borders don't have a lot of meaning to ARAB nations. We are fighting ISLAMIC TERRISTS-accept it.

You are a BUFOOOOON Lazt Lou!
At 4/21/2006 07:01:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: Oh and "ALF".....
It was YOUR country that tried to take over the world and we're STILL feeling those effects!

And your WRONG....you have the right to speak freely because the United States LIBERATED your AGGRESIVE country-DUH!

Would you be cutting Down Hitler today had we lost WWII???

I think Not! GODDAM you people need HISTORY lessons-CHRIST it's way worse than I thought! SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER you lazy libs!

CHA-CHING-
CHILI
At 4/21/2006 07:26:00 AM, Hayo said...: Chili, you clearly are the one who is in need of some history lessons. It's embarrassing. I can also advise you to stop trying to "edjumacate these know it alls", we are not going to change our minds just because a rightwinged dude is shouting his head off.
At 4/21/2006 07:37:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: I know that-DUH!

Hey Hayo! ha-y-y-y-o Daylight come and I wanta go home!

Go back and read all the crap from your Democratic Hero's

Are they lying?
At 4/21/2006 07:51:00 AM, Hayo said...: That was almost like..confusing.

1. Your replies never have anything to do with what you are replying on.

2. Don't try to make fun of my name, at least I use my real name instead of hiding behind a Neil lyric.

3. I don't have democratic hero's, I can actually think for myself, like most people you have been calling libs.

4. Buy a chill pill on the way home.

5. I love the album cover :)
At 4/21/2006 07:59:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: OOPS!
I thought your name was a Lyric, My deepest,sincerest, apologies. I meant no disrespect ma'am.

So, let me "rephrase" the question....

If one could Summioze that "Bush Lied" about WMD's, and ALL of those fine folks listed 1/2 way up on this board said the same things-
would that, or would that not, make them liars too?

I love how NOBODY will address this simple question!!@!!

SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP CHILI OUT!

Are they liars too?
At 4/21/2006 08:16:00 AM, Hayo said...: I think most people are liars. It's fun.
At 4/21/2006 08:27:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: SEE!
you can't even answer the question directly!

You make a piss poor excuse "everybody lies". Do you know why you do this? Cause YOU and your Lib Buddies are in denial!!!

To admit that, undermines your (And Neil's) entire foundation.

IT WAS BAD INTELLEGENCE! Bush recieved the same BAD data from CIA/OSS/IRAQI dissidents that your boy Bill Clinton and his gang of idiots did.

WHERE WAS NEIL WHEN CLINTON WAS LYING????????

HYPOCRITS I tell you! LIBERALS Can't handle the truth!

If BUSH LIED THEY LIED!
At 4/21/2006 08:42:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: WHERE WAS NEIL WHEN.....

Clinton Drug us into KOSOVO! That was a war right?

http://www.cnn.com/US/9903/23/u.s.kosovo.04/

Turned out, we fought that one form many wrong reason too!

Think Neil will do a follow up album?
At 4/21/2006 08:44:00 AM, Hayo said...: Calm the heck down man, I wasn't serious.

Where Neil was when Clinton was lying?
I guess he was making music? It's not like it is Neils duty to jump up when a president is lying, tho he sure did throw some flames at Clinton.

You have to keep in mind Bush is dragging loads of people into this without a proper reason. There was no connection between Saddam and 9/11, and "he was a dictator" is no valid reason as well. Here in the "free west" we think dictators are bad, but it's totally natural there. There is no universal "normal". They are doing things that were totally normal in the west 500 years ago.
That aside, you hardly have to look around for situations that are worse than it was/is in Iraq, but they just don't have oil.

And you know NOTHING about Neils foundation, don't even go there.
At 4/21/2006 09:06:00 AM, Mark Johnson said...: Don't feed the trolls.

Peace.
At 4/21/2006 09:09:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: TROLL?

your radio station sucks! Answer the question Mr. DEE JAY?

If Bush Lied, the Democrats listed above lied.

TRUE OR FALSE?

(damn your ugly-and that's comin' from me!)
At 4/21/2006 09:17:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: And you'd be surprised how much I know about Neil my little Danish friend!

Shoot me some trivia son! I've been following him for 30 years, that's a long time.

Here's one for you Neil "Experts"

What Does Neil and Carrie do in JTTP while sitting on the front bumper of his old car on a bridge on his ranch?

Don't question Chili's knowledge of Neil!
At 4/21/2006 09:25:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Oh yeah and chili just discovered what a search engine is, congratulations retard. Good luck with this guy Hayo, he's chucking out so many bad vibes in every direction we're all choking on his second hand smoke.
At 4/21/2006 09:31:00 AM, Hayo said...: Why are you talking to the Danish Neil fan all of a sudden?

And for the trivia, I have only been following Neils work for 12 years (as I am only 22), but that question is really not that hard. I even believe it's in Shakey. Besides I don't see what trivia has to do with anything, when I said foundation I was referring to your "To admit that, undermines your (And Neil's) entire foundation", not to basic knowledge about his life, which we should leave alone really, or at least not play games with.
At 4/21/2006 09:42:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: Please.....

A search engine? Find the answer then-show me a search engine that has it-

you crazy fools don't believe anthing!

What are they doing on the bumper?

Ok wait, would a searcxh engine have this, what was interesting about the headlights on the car?

You question my knowledge, I follow up and still you don't believe me!

Same way with Bush-you guys here Michael Moore and reality flies out the window!

I've asked some simple questions and you guys DANCE around them

1. Are those Democrats lying if Bush is?

2. What were Neil & Carrie doing on the bumper?

3. What's interesting about the headlamps?

Come on chicken shits! ANSWER IT!
At 4/21/2006 09:46:00 AM, akeelah and the bee said...: Neil is changing the world one album at a time...

May the FORCE be with you my son.

Long may you run Neil.
At 4/21/2006 09:49:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: you said that already.

WTF kinda name is tequilla and the Bee?
At 4/21/2006 09:52:00 AM, Hayo said...: Again, we don't wanna play your games, your questions are irrelevant and stupid. Nobody questioned your knowledge of Neilism at all. Call me chickenshit, but I would feel really bad answerring those questions, which could easily be answerred by whipping out my JTTP vcd.

For the first, not neil-related question, why answer is yes.
At 4/21/2006 09:59:00 AM, Anonymous said...: This is really ridiculous. How could someone who's been following Neil for 30 years not come to expect this kind of thing from him?
At 4/21/2006 10:01:00 AM, Alf said...: Chili, thanks for your reply.

Talking about history:
I will make it worse:
Although the US (with some canadians!) liberated the world from the nazi's, the retorical skills of herr Goebbels seemed to have past to you, somehow.
So it was not a complete victory I am afraid: indeed we all still suffer.

And this:
I live in Rotterdam within a 15 minute walk of Delfshaven were in 1620 the schooner Speedwell left with 30 people to Plymouth (England) were the people embarked on the Mayflower and left for what is now Massachusetts.......
These people were heavily oppresed
in Europe.......
As freedom for people like you only means that one must agree with the politics of your governement, I am sure there will be a lot of Speedwells and Mayflowers leaving the US. Well, maybe the people will take planes or the car to Canada or Mexico.
(Happy you! ;-) )

History repeats itself in this case: The US now are as intolerant as Europe was then.
At 4/21/2006 10:14:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: ?????

goddam Alf! WTF does all that mean?

I had to read it three times and I can't figure anything out about what you said! That's just jibberish!

OK-I've been to Plmyouth Rock (And I drove a plymouth many moons ago)
But I don't understand your point.

PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING TO COME HERE "DUUFUSS" (that mean's idiot in German) We have Mexicans crossing the desert in DROVES baby!

Nobody is leaving here-not even Alec Baldwin! But one can only hope.

Now I don't get your point-We Liberated Most of europe dude, your countries "copy", in principle, or free form of government, excpet for France which are retreating (no punn intended)from freedom every day.

So let me get this striaght, you proud to be a 15 minute walk from a place that Germans left to goto a place where they could catch a ride on the ole' Mayflower to goto Massachusetts?

Damn dude! Seems like you re-enforced Chili's opinion!

I'll say this, Germany knows how to make military uniforms-they always looked pretty sharp to me!
At 4/21/2006 10:16:00 AM, Mark Johnson said...: Ad hominem attacks do not advance the debate here.

Peace and Love,
Mark
At 4/21/2006 10:28:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: Well you called me a troll I think it was?

Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black! MORE hypocrisy from te left.

More and more and more, no substance, you guys don't answer the questions, you have no solutions, JUST COMPLAINTS!

I can sum Liberals up like this:

Conservatie: Hey, where do you want to eat tonight?

Liberal: Oh, I don't know.

Conservation: How About Chineese?

Liberal: No, they eat dogs sometimes.. and I'm a member of PETA

Conservative: That rules out Thai, How about Mexican?

Liberal: Naa, we suppress the poor people there, make them cross the borders and work at a non-union Wal*Marts.

Conservative: Italian?

Liberal: I don't care where we eat!

Conservative: Great, I know a new place this direction, great food, clean, your going to love it!
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THEY EAT A WONDERFULL MEAL
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Liberal: THIS SUCKS! I HATE GERMAN FOOD! THE SERVICE WAS TERRIBLE, SAURKRAUT MAKES ME FART AND SAUSAGE HAS MEAT IN IT AND I'M A VEG! YOU NEVER PICK THE RIGHT PLACE! YOUR A LIAR! THIS PLACE WAS NOT GOOD! YOU LIE!

Sums it up perfectly!

Chill
At 4/21/2006 10:37:00 AM, Alf said...: Well Chili,

I just over estimated you.
Excuse me for that!

I suppose you fancy those black Waffen-SS uniforms above the ordinary Wehrmacht uniforms?
They really look much sharper!!
At 4/21/2006 10:38:00 AM, Mark Johnson said...: Chilli,

My comments were not directed toward you, but toward everyone. I just think a bit of civility could generate a more interesting discussion.

Disagree?
Mark
At 4/21/2006 10:39:00 AM, Alf said...: Mark,

I wouldn't call this a debate.

It's something stupid, i don't know how to call it.
At 4/21/2006 10:46:00 AM, Hayo said...: This is not a debate indeed. It's a rightwinged guy shouting at all the other people. He loves history but makes historical mistakes I didn't even make when I was in highschool, and starts WRITING IN ALL CAPS when he doesn't know what to say. It's really interesting tho, I wasn't aware of the fact there are still people like him on this planet untill now.
At 4/21/2006 11:17:00 AM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: I'm sorry boys!

I was using CPAS to emulate shouting. the shouting LIBS do.

My bad! You guys keep missing the point though. your never answer my questions, well one did, but it was like pulling teeth.

That lends you credibility Mayo-Democrats are liars too! But Liberals look past that. I don't look past lousy Republicans and there are plenty!

you need to get off the grammer and caps thing, just read the damn thing and quit cryin' like a kindergarten teacher!
At 4/21/2006 11:20:00 AM, Anonymous said...: Neil Young never supported George W. Bush. That rumor got started because Young was honored with the Spirit Of Liberty Award by People for the American Way back in 2002, and he spoke on the Patriot Act -- saying "To protect our freedoms it seems we're going to have to relinquish some of our freedoms for a short period of time." I didn't get the impression that he approved of this, rather that he saw it (or feared it) as inevitable, at least temporarily; "These are our rights and we can get them back."

I have to laugh every time some misinformed media outlet refers to PFAW as a "right-wing" organization. Despite the name, PFAW (pfaw.org) is dedicated to the "American Way" as pluralism, democracy, freedom of speech and press. They were some of the principal lobbyists oppposing the appointment of Ashcroft.

Young's feelings about W can probably best be expressed in the famous 2004 interview with Toronto Now.

Bluejay
At 4/21/2006 11:37:00 AM, Mark Johnson said...: This is about exchanging ideas... it's about getting a message out. It's about empowering people by giving them a voice. I know not everyone believes what I say is what they think. But like I said before.. ya know.. red and blue is not black and white. We're all together.
At 4/21/2006 11:37:00 AM, Lazerlou said...: This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
At 4/21/2006 11:40:00 AM, Lazerlou said...: Chili is clearly unbalanced and lonely and uses blogs to obtain recognition from other human beings that he clearly does not receive in real life. That he is happy and willing to receive scorn should be telling to you all, that this guy needs your empathy and pity, not your scorn. Everyone needs to ignore the guy for his sake, or else he is simply going to continue to resort to flaming on the internet to get recognition from others, rather than try to build relationships in real life. For his sake and ours, just ignore the guy - we are all just making his sickness worse. In the end we want this blog to return to normal, where right wing flamers no longer troll.

Chili good luck to you brother. Love will find a way and come to you. You've got to have faith and not be scared.
At 4/21/2006 11:51:00 AM, Hayo said...: "I was using CPAS to emulate shouting. the shouting LIBS do."

Yes, thats what caps is usually used for, and shouting offends me. It's pretty low IQ, you should try to convince people with the words, not the size of them. We keep missing the point because you don't have one.

On the Neil-supporting-Bush thing, I remember he once said "This song is for George W Bush" and launched into "piece of crap" That was before 9/11.
At 4/21/2006 12:09:00 PM, alf said...: One of the good things to be a german is to be able to read german:
Kriegserklärung an den Präsidenten
Rockstar Neil Young kehrt zurück zum politischen Protestsong leben

Rock-Altmeister Neil Young ("Heart of Gold", "Rockin' in The Free World") kehrt zurück zum politischen Protestsong: In den letzten Tagen kursierten Gerüchte über Aufnahmen für ein neues Album auf diversen Blog-Seiten im Internet, die nun von Young auf seiner Website bestätigt wurden. Dort bezeichnet er seine neue Musik als "Metal Folk Protest"; die eingeschworene Fan-Gemeinde reagierte überwiegend euphorisch auf Youngs Rückkehr zum Rock.

Erst letzten September hatte Young, mittlerweile 60 Jahre alt, mit "Prairie Wind" ein eher ruhiges Songwriter-Album vorgelegt, das an seine großen Erfolge in den siebziger Jahren anknüpfen sollte. Doch eine Pause wollte er sich nicht gönnen. Young ist berühmt dafür, seine Musik roh und nahezu unbearbeitet aufzunehmen, wenn er neues Material geschrieben hat. Und so wurden die Aufnahmen für "Living With War" dem Vernehmen nach in nur drei Tagen in kalifornischen Studios abgeschlossen.

Einer der neuen Songs wird "Impeach the President" heißen. Young knüpft damit an sein "Greendale"-Album von 2003 an, in dessen Songs er den Abbau der Bürgerrechte nach dem 11. September beklagte und die ländliche Idylle eines anderen Amerika beschwor.

Es ist nicht das erste Mal, das Young einen US-Präsidenten direkt attackiert. 1970 schrieb er die Hippie-Protest-Hymne "Ohio". Darin macht er Präsident Nixon direkt verantwortlich für das Klima der Einschüchterung und Gewalt, das im Sommer 1970 dazu führte, daß die Nationalgarde an der Kent State University in Ohio vier protestierende Studenten erschoß. Seitdem äußert sich Young, der stets betont, froh darüber zu sein, daß er kanadischer Staatsbürger ist, immer wieder politisch - allerdings von unterschiedlichen Standpunkten aus. In den achtziger Jahren unterstützte er Ronald Reagans geistig-moralische Wende, und nach dem September-Terror 2001 sorgte sein patriotisches "Let's roll", frei nach den überlieferten letzten Wortes eines Passagiers der vierten Maschine, die in Pennsylvania zum Absturz gebracht wurde, für Kritik von liberaler Seite.

Jetzt kehrt er zurück zum wütenden Protest von links und belebt damit die totgesagte Protestsong-Tradition wieder. Das neue Album soll in vier bis sechs Wochen erscheinen. Wenn sich George Bushs Umfragewerte weiter nach unten entwickeln und aus dem Irak-Desaster kein Ausweg gefunden werden kann, hat Neil Young damit die einmalige Chance, den Kundgebungen und Protesten des Sommers den Soundtrack zu liefern.

Klaus Birnstiel

Süddeutsche Zeitung Nr. 90 vom 19.4.2006, Seite 13

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Danke!
At 4/21/2006 12:29:00 PM, Dionys said...: Being a German, but also of Italian and French descent, I would like to point out, that many Europeans, and imagine: the vast majority of Germans, forever will be grateful to these brave soldiers from Britain, France, Poland, Russia, Canada and especially from the US who liberated Europe and did away with the Nazi-Regime. We are not obliged to eternal gratitude towards their loudmouth grand children who did precious little lately to make this world a better place, but are using up the planet (Didn't Neil young say something like that?) There are a lot of Americans of all political creeds who are somewhat different, that's why one can take them serious...
At 4/21/2006 12:50:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Neil said it all too well. I vividly recall listening to Ohio when it was first released. The song resonated then, and it still delivers a power message, as it pointed out the stupidity of a war that really accomplished nothing.

The current war in Iraq has done nothing but further infuriate the Arab world and has thrown us deeper into the vortex of hatred. We were misled, and I strongly suspect that history will verify that. I feel incredibly sorry for anyone who has been wounded, or for the families of those killed. I truly hope that history validates that this current war was more useful and purposeful than our failed campaign in Indochina.
At 4/21/2006 01:29:00 PM, Lazerlou said...: T.Ogle,

Your wrote:

"I care deeply about our country, and the last thing either one of us wants is our people being blown up on the streets or the malls as they are in Israel. If it not for Bush and his proactive approach, trust me my friend, it would already be happening. I just don't agree this time."

Now I strongly disagree that we would have suicide bombers on our streets if it wasn't for the Bush administration's "proactive" efforts. Anyway you slice it, Iraq is far less of a threat than Syria Iran, Pakistan and private money from Saudi Arabia in terms of supporting and funding suicide bombers (Note I do recognize that Saddam's regime was giveing money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers).

But that isn't the point I want to make. The point I want to make is that even if we were subject to the ocassional suicide bomber as Israel is, your chances of dying from heart disease or in a car accident would still be exponentially larger than it would if suicide bombers were actually blowing themselves up in our malls.

One of the best classes I ever had in lawschool was a class called "law, regulation and behavior," which was essentially a class in behavioral law and economics. One of the best things I learned in that class is that human beings tend to use heuristics, shortcuts in reasoning, all the time that often result in bad decisions and poor planning.

One of these heuristics we studied was the tendency of people to think events have a far higher probability of actually happeneing if people have readily accessible poerful or scary images of the potential results of these events in their heads. That is, if they are able to conjure a mental picture of the possible results of a low probablility event, say an airplane crashing, they tend to think the probability of that event actually happened is much much higher than it actually is.

The result is that people spend a lot of time worrying about plane crahes, some even refuse to fly, yet the same people often forget to buckle their seatbelts when they get in their car, despite the fact that the liklihood of dying in a car wreck is factors of ten larger than it is to die in a plane crash.

Point of all this is, even if there were suicide bombings here, which would be awful, you should still be *far* more concerned about car crahes, the effects of smoking, heart disease, and poverty.
At 4/21/2006 01:37:00 PM, Danish NY Fan said...: What a war-like debate you just had. But try to remember peace:-)
I think that is the message that Neil is trying to come acros with here so why shouldnt we be the first to try and live it out. A meaningfull and constructive debate is only created when mutual reconition is the foundation for the debate. So lets try to keep that in mind and toghether try to remember how peace can be an option for the future.
At 4/21/2006 01:38:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Tyler Drumheller, the CIA's former top man in Europe, tells CBS News that the White House ignored intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq war. Drumheller says former CIA Director George Tenet told the president and the vice president that Iraq's foreign minister, with whom U.S. spies had struck a deal, was saying that Saddam Hussein had no active WMD program.

The news fell on deaf ears, Drumheller says.

"The [White House] group that was dealing with preparation for the Iraq war came back and said they were no longer interested," he tells "60 Minutes." "And we said, 'Well, what about the intel?' And they said, 'Well, this isn't about intel anymore. This is about regime change.'"
At 4/21/2006 02:12:00 PM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: WHy don't you answer my question since you know so much about the CIA-
If those democrats ALL said the same thing Bush was -Does that make ALL of them liars too?

and once again Lou-your statement here and I quote:

But that isn't the point I want to make. The point I want to make is that even if we were subject to the ocassional suicide bomber as Israel is, your chances of dying from heart disease or in a car accident would still be exponentially larger than it would if suicide bombers were actually blowing themselves up in our malls.

That bothers the shit ought of me! You equate it to a disease and if it doesn't happen a lot, why bother?

That doesn't float in the good Ol'e USA- for example Lou,

Let's say that somebody held a person of Color, a black man, as a slave for ten years and it's recently discovered-
Why do anything right Lou? it's only one guy-who cares right? Most black are not slaves so whyu should it bother you!

Your logic is, and I'm trying to be kind-warped!

We must fight all wrongs wit heverything we got! Slavery is worng, fight it! Terrorism is wrong-FIGHT IT! Disease is wrong-FIGHT IT!

Loe Gerihg disease doen't kill many, so should we fight it Lou?

What about aids? it kills a small percentage of Americans-do we look the other way?

I think not-
(see. conservatives can have a hear t too!)
At 4/21/2006 02:17:00 PM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: How about AIds lou?

"MOST" Americans are likely to die from cancer, but if my memory serves-we spend far more on aids research (perhaps it's heart disease-Chili can't remember).

Using your logic, we fight Cancer not aids firts!

out of 300 million Americans, only 3 thousand died on 9/11, your right!

0.00001% of Americans died that day- why the hell do Anything-hmmm?

you want to retract that statement lou-We'll let ya!
At 4/21/2006 02:21:00 PM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: Hey CIA ANON guy....

Read this:

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

Democrats have made the absence of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq a theme in their criticism of the Bush administration's decision to go to war in 2003. And President Bush himself has conceded much of the point; in a televised prime-time address to Americans last month, he said, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong."

Said Mr. Bush, "We did not find those weapons."

http://www.nysun.com/article/26514

Here comes the "he's selling a book" replys- EVERYBODY IS SELLING A BOOK-----or an ALBUM! (draw your own conclusion there)
At 4/21/2006 02:24:00 PM, Hayo said...: tumbleweed
At 4/21/2006 02:50:00 PM, Anonymous said...: Matt. 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
At 4/21/2006 03:02:00 PM, Cold Bowl of Chili said...: Tumbleweed Connection! one of me first albums!

I'm not a bible thumper so don't bother-

I think Kennedy once said-the best defense is a good offense.

That's true. We have yet to be attacked since 9/11 "LIES" or not. You guys call it paranoia, I call your complacentsy. Your falling back into that "lull" of security-that when the cowardly bastards will strike!

We caught one here at Georgia Tech, just yesterday. So, let Neil and his fans smoke some dope and pretend it's safe to drink at the watering hole-but there are still a few more lions to sleigh-eh lou?
At 4/21/2006 03:16:00 PM, Hayo said...: Maybe you should not buy this album.
At 4/21/2006 03:16:00 PM, Hayo said...: Maybe you should not buy this album.
At 4/21/2006 03:18:00 PM, Hayo said...: (I forgot my coat)
At 4/21/2006 03:46:00 PM, Helen said...: Rock on Neil! Rock on!
Peace.............
At 4/21/2006 04:05:00 PM, Anonymous said...: CBoC,

I'm hesitant to respond to you given the warnings about you on this board.
But the difference between Bush and the Dems you quote is easy to point out. Bush knew at the time he made certain statements that they were false, while the quotes you give were not made with knowledge they were false.
That is an easy difference to understand, isn't